. ♪ >>> joining us, bob brown, fidelity investment bond group. did you see the journal piece, investors jump off the junk pile, totally overheated. is that your view? >> the junk market has had a tremendous run this year. up over north of 12%. at the end of the day, i think investors are still looking for some level of income appreciation and the junk market is doing that. high yield companies have never been in better shape from a balance sheet perspective. and cash flows that they're providing. p so we continue to see the massive capital gains that we've seen or the run up in price appreciation that we've seen this year. probably not, but i think it's still a diversification. >> what kind of current yield can you get on an average junk bond? what's average, bb or something? >> bb. you're going to -- right now investor grade index spread is at approximately 140 basis points. rallied from 241 basis points. >> so what could i get? what percent and then maybe hope for maybe a little capital appreciation, but hopefully no capital loss. what kind of